1 Contrasting political, social and intellectual perspectives
A comparison of Vietnam and England in the fourteenth century
Source: Paper for Hamburg Synposium on Religious Diffusion and Cultural Exchange in South East Asia, 7â9 September 1998; corrected version March 1999.
I
The subject of historical difference between âAsiaâ and âEuropeâ has been of scholarly concern since at least the late 18th century, when J.G. von Herder posed the question: how and why did Europe emerge as the focal point of human history? The theme was important for many of the major philosopherâhistorianâsociologists of the period 1820â1940, and any serious historiographical treatment would need to take into account the works of Hegel and Comte, Marx and Weber â to mention only a few of the âgiantsâ. Their dominant concern was with European âprogressâ, which contrasted sharply with the apparently unchanging quality of Asian societies in the centuries since the emergence of classical Greek and Roman âcivilisationâ. During the same period, however, Europe produced its own âorientalâ scholarship which, although assuming the same philosophical framework, also developed a high level of scholarly respect for the classical languages and texts of one or another of the Asian âtraditionsâ. Max Weberâs comparative studies, especially, depended on that growing body of specialised research.
The influence of Weberâs sociological approach remained strong in the 1950s and 1960s, especially in the United States. In the political aftermath of the European retreat from Asia and the rise of American hegemony, many Western social scientists and historians defined the âtaskâ of Asian âmodern-izationâ in essentially socio-cultural terms. The âquest for modernityâ was seen as a product of the âimpact of the Westâ on Asian societies, during the âage of imperialismâ from 1800 to 1940.1 Current and future problems of development were approached by way of essentially Western (and behaviourist) conceptual norms, centering above all on that of the nation-state and its theoretical sovereignty.
During the same period, Marxist theoreticians grappled with the issue of the âso-called Asiatic mode of productionâ, in terms which had grown out of a debate of the 1930s, when Stalin had insisted on eliminating Marxâs own formulation of that concept and on the universality of âfeudalismâ as a stage of Asian history. In 1957 Karl Wittfogel sought to rehabilitate Marxâs concept, in terms which would also satisfy Weberian social scientists, by launching his controversial Oriental Despotism.
Much of the conceptual framework of Weberian sociology was incorporated into American social (especially political) science by the mid-20th century, and was also adopted by many historians. The trend was especially marked in the case of Asian studies which â in the United States more than in Europe â were avowedly inter-disciplinary in their focus on âareasâ defined according to the necessity of acquiring language expertise. It became most prevalent of all in the field of South-East Asian studies, whose financial viability depended on a small number of academic centres embracing expertise in several different countries of that region. The adoption of a common conceptual framework facilitated comparative discussion in seminars made up of specialists working on a range of different countries and languages.
Since the 1960s a somewhat different approach to âpre-modernâ Asia has developed, in an academic context shaped by Fernand Braudelâs work on the expansion of long distance trade by Western capitalist enterprises; and by a debate on the European âgeneral crisisâ of the 17th century, initiated by Eric Hobsbawm and H.R. Trevor Roper in the journal Past and Present. In relation to the social and economic development of Asia, the growing output of specialist research during the 1970s and 1980s contributed to a clearer understanding of the global significance of these themes. Long-distance trade was seen as having steadily transformed Asian society, at least in maritime regions, through a somewhat less one-sided process of interaction than earlier stereotypes had allowed. âTraditionalâ Asian societies began to appear much less âstaticâ than had once been supposed, and much more lively in their response to external intrusions between the 16th and 18th centuries. In South-East Asia, Anthony Reid and others began to explore the repercussions of a seventeenth century âcrisisâ whose scope and quality now appeared to be truly global, not just European. Nevertheless, the fact remained that it was Europeans who had expanded their operations into Asia â as traders and as missionaries â not the expanding economic activity of Asians which had taken them to Europe. As far as comparative history was concerned, the underlying question was still one of explaining European âexceptionalismâ.
It is not my intention in this paper to become deeply involved in these larger controversies. I am, however, tempted to take as a starting point some reflections on one important recent contribution to the continuing debate: namely Victor Liebermanâs attempt to âtranscend EastâWest dichotomiesâ by developing a comparative analysis of societies in various parts of the ârimlandâ of âEurasiaâ during the centuries from c.1450 to c.1830. It has direct relevance to my present theme since he gives special prominence to three countries of mainland South-East Asia (Burma, Siam and Vietnam), which he proceeds to compare with three more widely scattered ârimlandâ countries: France, Russia and Japan. His main purpose is to demonstrate that â when seen âfrom insideâ rather than primarily in terms of their external contacts â all six of these societies exhibit a common trend towards greater political, social and cultural âintegrationâ during the period in question.2
I should say immediately that on one level I am entirely in sympathy with Liebermanâs conclusion that these three South-East Asian countries (Burma, Siam and Vietnam) had already taken on what might be called their âmodernâ political and social structure well before they experienced the âimpact of the Westâ in the first half of the 19th century. I am less convinced of the appropriateness of extending the (originally European) label of an âearly modernâ to the history of Asian societies. But there is every reason to identify a period in that history during which significant political and cultural âintegrationâ took place, starting in the second half of the 16th century (possibly earlier) and ending by around 1800. I would go further and suggest that the developments of 1800â1940 can be seen as a postlude to that longer evolution: a period in which the region was âinternationalisedâ without being structurally transformed. In other words, I would argue that the transformation of the region which occurred in the period 1600â1800 was even more fundamental than that brought about by the âimpact of the Westâ in the colonial era.3
I do, however, wish to take issue with Professor Liebermanâs methodological approach to his theme, and to the larger problem of comparative history in relation to Europe and Asia. Two possible criticisms seem to me worthy of closer attention.
First: It is impossible to attempt a comparative study of such widely distant and culturally different societies, each governed by its own language, without adopting a highly conceptualised approach: one which, for English-speaking scholars, is ultimately rooted in the âAnglo-Saxonâ political and philosophical tradition, and that of its âclassicalâ antecedents. Discourse originating in very different Asian languages is thus reduced to a common conceptual framework in order to allow the formulation of more general questions. But this carries with it the danger that some aspects of diversity will be neglected, while those common features most readily drawn into the conceptualised discourse receive disproportionate attention. When this approach is applied to comparisons between pre-19th century South-East Asia and other areas of âEurasiaâ, the dangers become especially great.
On the one hand, considerably less research has been undertaken on the history of countries like Vietnam, Siam and Burma during Liebermanâs period, than in the case of European societies or even Japan. Worse still, when we take into account of the actual volume of source materials available for the study of South-East Asian countries during the centuries before 1800 â especially the âindigenousâ sources â we find that European countries are vastly better off. Many types of detailed research that have been successfully attempted for European countries are inherently impossible for Burma, Siam or Vietnam in this period. The required sources, if they ever existed at all, simply have not survived. As a result, concepts originally formulated in relation to better-researched societies cannot always be effectively tested for their genuine applicability to less fully researched areas. The comparative historian may too easily fall into the âtrapâ of allowing conceptualised generalisation â which ought in principle to be based on detailed research â to become instead a substitute for such research. In these circumstances, conceptual similarities and differences are liable to take shape âin the eye of the beholderâ.
Second: Liebermanâs approach involves more than âsynchronicâ comparisons between two or more societies as they existed at one particular moment in history. Influenced by the fashionable preference for studying the longue duree rather than events in a shorter time span, he seeks to compare European and Asian societies in terms of a dynamic process of change which he sees taking place over several centuries. He is thus measuring European and Asian societies against one another in terms of a âsharedâ pattern of long-term political and cultural evolution. Such an exercise can begin by identifying an essentially European sequence of change, and then seek to impose it on the countries of mainland South-East Asia. Alternatively it can begin by identifying a number of apparent changes in the countries of the latter region, and then concentrate on highlighting those themes â at the expense of others â when looking at France or Russia. In either direction, the approach is liable to exclude from consideration those features which do not fit into the conceptual âparadigmâ and to produce a very superficial analysis of actual political, cultural and social change.
In relation to economic change during these centuries, Lieberman finds considerable difficulty in adducing hard information to sustain vague assertions about the pace and implications of âeconomic growthâ in his South-East Asian countries. He notes the increasing importance of monetary transactions as opposed to payments in kind, and also touches on modes of taxation from the point of view of the peasant; but these trends cannot be represented in statistical terms, even for particular localities. Nor does he get to grips with the problem of commercial capitalism â whether European or Asian â and the related question of government finance. Marxist critics would also emphasise his failure to explore the possible relevance of the issue of âmodes of productionâ to his general thesis. Clearly before we can attempt serious generalisations about long-term economic and social change it is necessary to attempt a great deal more research on material conditions and administrative regulations in particular localities at more precisely defined periods.
In the spirit of these criticisms, I would argue the need for a more tightly controlled approach to comparative history in the present state of studies: one limited in the first instance to bilateral exercises focusing on comparisons between only two countries, during relatively short time spans. The present paper will therefore seek to explore similarities and differences between the kingdoms of England and of Dai-Viet during the fourteenth century, with special reference to three sub-periods: the decades from 1320 to 1350; the crises of 1368â77; and the period 1385â1400. In a previous paper I have attempted a comparison of this kind with reference to the 15th and 16th centuries.4 There are two reasons for extending that comparison to the 14th century. One is that it will take us back to a period before significant European commercial intrusion became a factor for change in South-East Asia. Another is that a preliminary study of the global perspective of the 14th century has convinced me of the wider significance of changes in Europe and in China at that time. It is especially interesting to compare two countries which were, relatively speaking, on the political and cultural periphery of those two larger regions.
II
In five respects England and Dai-Viet may be said to have been sufficiently similar in the 14th century to allow us to construct a framework of comparison. In the first place they are comparable in scale. The two countries were remarkably similar in size, and probably also in total population. The more precise measurements that are possible in the 20th century indicate that the surface area of what eventually became Vietnam, following its unification for the first time in 1802, is rather larger than that of the whole of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland (the âBritish Islesâ in a geographical sense): around 332,000 sq. km. as compared with 300,000 sq. km. However, in the 14th century the kingdom of Dai-Viet was limited to the northern half of present-day Vietnam: essentially the area north of the Hai-Van pass. Farther south lay the territory of the Cham kingdom. The kingdom of England had conquered the principality of Wales under Edward I (reg.1272â1307), although it was not administratively annexed until 1536; and only some areas of Ireland were under English dominion. Scotland was a completely separate country. Nevertheless, as the following figures show, Dai-Viet (slightly larger than the North Vietnam of 1955) was comparable in extent with England and Wales:
North Vietnam (1955â75): 158, 750 square kilometers
England and Wales: 150, 275 square kilometres
Comparisons of population are more difficult for a period as early as the 14th century â even in the case of England, where we can rely on surviving tax records of the period. The standard scholarly history of the period can do no more than report specialist estimates of the English population at the beginning of the 14th century, varying between 2.5 and 4 millions.5 However, it is fairly certain that a substantial decline occurred in mid-century, as a result of the plague epidemic known as the âblack deathâ. (Its precise quantification is impossible and suggestions that as much as a third of the population died are probably an exaggeration.) In the case of Vietnam, even that kind of rough estimation is impossible in the Tran period. But Lieberman, citing research by Dr Li Tana, is able to give an estimate of 4.7 millions for the Vietnam of around 1600.6 All that can be said with any confidence is that we are dealing with two countries whose population during our period was of roughly the same order.
A second basic similarity concerns the nature and level of material production. Both kingdoms were essentially agrarian societies, with a limited amount of small-scale industrial development â probably rather greater in England than in Dai-Viet. England, although it already had significant craft industries in such spheres as textiles, leather goods and cutlery, was still a long way from the âindustrial revolutionâ which would sharply differentiate its economy from those of South-East Asia by the end of the 18th century. The contrasts in this sphere relate mainly to the differences between an agriculture based on wheat, barley and oats (with a considerable emphasis on livestock) and one based on the cultivation of wet rice. Water control was a more important factor in Dai-Viet than in England, although its irrigation works and dikes did not need to be on the vast scale required by the larger rivers of China.
Thirdly, the two countries were both monarchies in the sense that an enthroned ruler (as king or as vua) stood at the focal point of a ruling elite, which recognised the royal court as the centre of government and power. Also, kingship was hereditary, or dynastic. In Dai-Viet the throne was occupied by the Tran dynasty from 1225 to 1400. In England it belonged to the house of Anjou, established by Henry II in 1154, which in 1399 became the house of Lancaster. (Chronicles of the 16th century refer to the whole period from 1154 to 1485 as the rule of the Plantagenets, but that surname was not adopted till around 1450.) In both countries membership of the ruling clan or family conferred aristocratic status on a number of individuals, who were thereby entitled to substantial resources in land and agrarian labour and had varying degrees of influence at court. The royal capital was connected with lower levels of administration by a hierarchy of non-royal officials, some of whom also controlled private resources of land and labour. In both cases, too, surviving historical works in the form of chron...